tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15388492.post7137582054233320422..comments2024-03-27T20:28:38.015-04:00Comments on Reasonable Christian: A Review: Republocrat: Confessions of a Liberal Conservative by Carl TruemanCharlie J. Rayhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/18185331029930925967noreply@blogger.comBlogger24125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15388492.post-54592655997934348212012-03-27T17:02:43.047-04:002012-03-27T17:02:43.047-04:00BTW, anyone who favors giving gays any rights in a...BTW, anyone who favors giving gays any rights in addition to other single Americans is endorsing "benefits" and positive reinforcement of immorality and an anti-traditional family agenda. Does "social engineering" ring a bell?Charlie J. Rayhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18185331029930925967noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15388492.post-82920005817038111592012-03-27T17:00:41.803-04:002012-03-27T17:00:41.803-04:00>>>>Anonymous said...
If you real...>>>>Anonymous said...<br /><br /> If you really believe that Democrats are socialists, I fear it is you that practices relativism. While many of their policies might be deemed "liberal", they cannot even begin to compare with the high-taxing, high-intervention socialist governments that have plagued many European nations in the past sixty years.<<<<br /><br />Charlie J. Rayhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18185331029930925967noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15388492.post-89298811475753337222011-04-15T20:26:50.827-04:002011-04-15T20:26:50.827-04:00That's because Republicans keep the socialists...That's because Republicans keep the socialists in check. Left to themselves Democrats would tax us into communism and socialism. Thank God for the Tea Party:)<br /><br />Does "national health care" ring a bell??Charlie J. Rayhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18185331029930925967noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15388492.post-69984152570964326702011-04-14T22:22:24.852-04:002011-04-14T22:22:24.852-04:00If you really believe that Democrats are socialist...If you really believe that Democrats are socialists, I fear it is you that practices relativism. While many of their policies might be deemed "liberal", they cannot even begin to compare with the high-taxing, high-intervention socialist governments that have plagued many European nations in the past sixty years.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15388492.post-91510228127182622922010-11-10T15:33:21.341-05:002010-11-10T15:33:21.341-05:00More gutless Carl Trueman remarks:
Why American R...More gutless Carl Trueman remarks:<br /><br /><a href="http://reasonablechristian.blogspot.com/2010/11/touching-third-rail-why-are-reformed.html" rel="nofollow">Why American Reformed Christians are involved in the political process</a>.Charlie J. Rayhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18185331029930925967noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15388492.post-57096251553564575982010-11-01T10:14:37.957-04:002010-11-01T10:14:37.957-04:00Pure socialism is inherently godless, materialisti...Pure socialism is inherently godless, materialistic, and atheistic. If Alan Colmes is any indication or representation of what the Democratic Party looks like, then my generalization stands. Of course there will be exceptions to the rule. I do believe I said that capitalism is as godless and materialistic as socialism.<br /><br />Be that as it may, homosexuals and various other miscreants haveCharlie J. Rayhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18185331029930925967noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15388492.post-35202143935954536392010-10-29T00:02:47.765-04:002010-10-29T00:02:47.765-04:00I think we should make a distinction between anti-...I think we should make a distinction between anti-gay rights and anti-gay marriage.<br /><br />On the one hand I'm opposed to changing the traditional and God-given definition of marriage of one man and one woman to incorporate any other kind of human relationships. So is Carl Trueman.<br /><br />On the other hand, I think one should be allowed to include on his health insurance anyone he Pilgrimsarbourhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18046918223325823689noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15388492.post-51051857564692129562010-10-27T13:46:01.609-04:002010-10-27T13:46:01.609-04:00Whoa whoa whoa! You have it all wrong.
Trueman is...Whoa whoa whoa! You have it all wrong.<br /><br />Trueman is saying that Christians who vote with the Democrat party have no right to <i>lord it over</i> those who vote with the Republicans, as if they are better people by virtue of being Democrats. In this sense, I agree with him. That kind of elitist thinking (that is, of the party leadership) goes to the core of our problems.<br /><br />Pilgrimsarbourhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18046918223325823689noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15388492.post-19343102809510382842010-10-27T13:38:47.719-04:002010-10-27T13:38:47.719-04:00@Pilgrim The link has always worked. In fact the...@Pilgrim The link has always worked. In fact there are two links: The title and the other link below the title. It stands as I posted it originally and has not been changed. Perhaps you should be less trigger happy? I thank you for the link posted by Trueman at Reformation21. I got free exposure for a mistake on your part.<br /><br />By the way, I stand by what I said about Trueman. He'Charlie J. Rayhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18185331029930925967noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15388492.post-78163465789028023922010-10-27T13:33:04.344-04:002010-10-27T13:33:04.344-04:00From this quote at the Gospel Coalition review, &q...From this quote at the Gospel Coalition review, "Trueman doesn’t waste all his bullets on the Right. Though himself a liberal (of the old school variety he is quick to add), Trueman has little patience for evangelicals who parade their Democratic sympathies in a “Aren’t I naughty?”, it would appear that my opinion of Trueman is closer to the truth than you want to admit.<br /><br />Typical Charlie J. Rayhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18185331029930925967noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15388492.post-85853968032601885632010-10-27T13:28:38.586-04:002010-10-27T13:28:38.586-04:00Greetings Mr. Ray,
The Google blogs have it arran...Greetings Mr. Ray,<br /><br />The Google blogs have it arranged that if you click on a post's title, the comment section of that post will come up in what I consider to be a more easily readable format. (Your template is somewhat of an exception to this). The first time I read your post, having clicked on the title, it did not direct me to any other book review, but only to the comments Pilgrimsarbourhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18046918223325823689noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15388492.post-87864499247553117602010-10-27T13:28:12.698-04:002010-10-27T13:28:12.698-04:00@Batreader A review at The Gospel Coalition???? ...@Batreader A review at The Gospel Coalition???? You have got to be kidding me???<br /><br />The Gospel Coalition is a mix of so-called "reformed" Baptists, Amyraldians and worse--Tim Keller.<br /><br />I will read the review to which you linked and get back to you.<br /><br />I attended a conference sponsored by Gospel Coalition called Gospel Growth/People Growth last February in Charlie J. Rayhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18185331029930925967noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15388492.post-29729985711715130112010-10-27T13:12:20.280-04:002010-10-27T13:12:20.280-04:00It's odd that I'm accused of writing a boo...It's odd that I'm accused of writing a book review when all I did was comment on a book review. If you all had simply clicked on the title of the article, you would have seen that I linked to a book review at <a href="http://theaquilareport.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=3144:a-review-republocrat-confessions-of-a-liberal-conservative-by-carl-trueman&catid=63Charlie J. Rayhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18185331029930925967noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15388492.post-87639410763464878042010-10-27T12:10:14.963-04:002010-10-27T12:10:14.963-04:00Trueman's position that abortion should not be...Trueman's position that abortion should not be a litmus test of any kind is like saying that the genocide of the Jews should not determine which party we support. Will you vote for the Nazis for a better economy?Charlie J. Rayhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18185331029930925967noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15388492.post-6623071401796275442010-10-27T12:05:15.557-04:002010-10-27T12:05:15.557-04:00Straw man? First, I never claimed to offer a book...Straw man? First, I never claimed to offer a book review. This is an opinion I offered after reading another article online. I have a right to express my opinions. Attacking me as a person simply because I dared to offer a dissenting opinion is ad hominem:)<br /><br />Tell Trueman to send me a copy and I will offer a genuine review:)Charlie J. Rayhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18185331029930925967noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15388492.post-32421096234037523892010-10-27T12:00:16.919-04:002010-10-27T12:00:16.919-04:00Trueman might accuse me of creating a "strawm...Trueman might accuse me of creating a "strawman" but the logical and practical implications of his position as laid out in this and many of his other "moderate" politics and theology is essentially compromise.<br /><br />I do not advocate theonomy, reconstruction OR ecumenicalism. Trueman's position seems to favor ecumenicalism as opposed to the Moral Majority or the Charlie J. Rayhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18185331029930925967noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15388492.post-41137169670759794252010-10-27T11:50:50.896-04:002010-10-27T11:50:50.896-04:00@Steve
I know the same way I know what the Bible ...@Steve<br /><br />I know the same way I know what the Bible teaches--through reason and through comparison with church teaching and sola Scriptura. We are indeed all fallible and prone to sinful decisions. But the LORD is still sovereignly and providentially guiding both good and bad decisions for His own secret purposes. (Deuteronomy 29:29).Charlie J. Rayhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18185331029930925967noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15388492.post-75282483697459211042010-10-27T11:48:12.355-04:002010-10-27T11:48:12.355-04:00I do not have the book but I have read enough and ...I do not have the book but I have read enough and heard enough of Trueman to know he's wishy washy. I would be more than happy to review the book rather than offer my opinion if the publisher or one of you would send me a review copy:)Charlie J. Rayhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18185331029930925967noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15388492.post-75006089146146761982010-10-25T22:12:25.772-04:002010-10-25T22:12:25.772-04:00How do you know anything that Trueman "seems ...How do you know anything that Trueman "seems to want" if you haven't read the book?Mon Harvardhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14840949675902703527noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15388492.post-2432337010440156912010-10-25T12:07:27.846-04:002010-10-25T12:07:27.846-04:00Charlie, what makes you think that if we "thr...Charlie, what makes you think that if we "throw both parties out and instead stick to what is RIGHT" things won't come full circle again? That just seems like an incredibly naive proposition, one that doesn't take into account what it means to be human. it's like saying to a football player, "Ok, now, here's what I want you to do: catch the ball and make more stevehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17604339736220629514noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15388492.post-65781099088833457332010-10-22T17:15:04.577-04:002010-10-22T17:15:04.577-04:00http://www.reformation21.org/blog/2010/10/the-last...http://www.reformation21.org/blog/2010/10/the-last-strawman.php<br /><br />Trueman just responded to you.Roohnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15388492.post-83357149624592065472010-10-21T13:57:52.443-04:002010-10-21T13:57:52.443-04:00Greetings Mr. Ray,
You said...
Trueman is only ...Greetings Mr. Ray,<br /><br />You said...<br /><br /><i> Trueman is only half right. From my perspective Trueman is an idealistic idealogue with visions of a church utopia on earth, something that will never happen.</i><br /><br />I know Carl and he specifically said in the book that he had no utopian visions. The reason for this is that he has a very clear biblical understanding of the human Pilgrimsarbourhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18046918223325823689noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15388492.post-52299956406787316762010-10-20T11:02:34.687-04:002010-10-20T11:02:34.687-04:00Here's a review by a largely trusted source.
h...Here's a review by a largely trusted source.<br />http://bit.ly/bAnQheBatreaderhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02622531470796988095noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15388492.post-80900243733154845572010-10-19T23:57:36.310-04:002010-10-19T23:57:36.310-04:00Charlie, as you said you have not read the book ot...Charlie, as you said you have not read the book otherwise you would not think that a) it relegates abortion to a side issue b) that it waters down the gospel c) that it seeks to compromise d) that it appeases anyone e) that Trueman thinks in terms of a church utopia. In fact you got the book wrong on just about everything - but that is the danger of reviewing a book that you haven't read :-)Batreaderhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02622531470796988095noreply@blogger.com