tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15388492.post78340372828508785..comments2024-03-27T20:28:38.015-04:00Comments on Reasonable Christian: Augustianism/Calvinism Versus Arminianism/MolinismCharlie J. Rayhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/18185331029930925967noreply@blogger.comBlogger13125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15388492.post-21862591274694361082012-04-03T18:24:03.335-04:002012-04-03T18:24:03.335-04:00Blog,
Arminianism teaches depravity but not "...Blog,<br /><br />Arminianism teaches depravity but not "total depravity". Wesleyan view is that man has a "bent" toward sinning but that "prevenient" grace or common grace is given to all mankind so that he has "free will". That is not what the Bible teaches. The Bible teaches that the will is in total slavery to sin unless and until Jesus makes them freeCharlie J. Rayhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18185331029930925967noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15388492.post-30989788250713486182012-04-03T14:04:48.937-04:002012-04-03T14:04:48.937-04:00I used to attend a Pentecostal church and I heard ...I used to attend a Pentecostal church and I heard that there is no goodness in man at all and that one's justification before God is not dependent upon anything in or about man. Would this teaching be consistent with Arminianism? I was just wondering because people say that Pentecostal churches are known to be Arminian.Bloghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07941608400528727443noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15388492.post-4490339686904312182011-12-05T08:44:49.656-05:002011-12-05T08:44:49.656-05:00Prevenient grace by the Arminian definition obviou...Prevenient grace by the Arminian definition obviously has no power to overcome inability since a great majority of mankind remains in slavery to sin. If there is actual libertarian free will, then it would be hard to see how the Arminian view is anything other than Pelagianism rehashed? Sin would be simply following Adam's bad example and unbelief.Charlie J. Rayhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18185331029930925967noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15388492.post-43503728124746511512011-12-05T08:34:27.261-05:002011-12-05T08:34:27.261-05:00You declared me a heretic and showed once again th...You declared me a heretic and showed once again that for a Calvinist, or at least you, theology is the gospel instead of Christ crucified. Nowhere in Scripture is your theology called the gospel. <<<This fellow seems to think that believing what Scripture says in propositional truth claims is irrelevant so long as you have some empty, doctrine-less mystical encounter with an undefined Charlie J. Rayhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18185331029930925967noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15388492.post-4922374656802090432011-12-05T07:40:25.455-05:002011-12-05T07:40:25.455-05:00Sophistry. Please explain exactly how satire can&#...<i>Sophistry. Please explain exactly how satire can't be irenic.<br /></i> Satire by definition is not a logical or rational disputation of the propositions of a position but relies instead on the ad hominem fallacy. "Calvinists are ....." yada yada yada... Sophistry on Mr. Arminian's part seems to be OK:)Charlie J. Rayhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18185331029930925967noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15388492.post-81680733402405125942011-12-05T07:38:21.878-05:002011-12-05T07:38:21.878-05:00Is Arminianism "semi-pelagian"? While i...Is Arminianism "semi-pelagian"? While it is true that Arminians re-interpreted the doctrine of prevenient grace to fit their scheme (prevenient grace as taught in the 39 Articles of Religion and the English Reformation refers to irresistible grace), the fact that semi-pelagians attribute libertarian free will to nature and Arminians attribute libertarian free will to prevenient grace Charlie J. Rayhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18185331029930925967noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15388492.post-13355266178349815512011-04-05T18:36:31.637-04:002011-04-05T18:36:31.637-04:00I'm not sure which church you belong to, Jaltu...I'm not sure which church you belong to, Jaltus. Also, I don't believe the article mentions any particular church. It refers to the Calvinist and Arminian controversy.<br /><br />The EFCA has to do with financial accountability, not theological issues.<br /><br />CharlieCharlie J. Rayhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18185331029930925967noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15388492.post-37745811567171244702011-04-05T16:07:18.389-04:002011-04-05T16:07:18.389-04:00For the record, my church is a member of the EFCA ...For the record, my church is a member of the EFCA and has been for years, and therefore hold to the EFCA statement of faith.<br /><br />Sorry, just happened upon this post in my internet travels. I do not appreciate people making incorrect statements about my church.Jaltushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00888583924037266168noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15388492.post-81513322233708845342009-07-02T19:33:32.218-04:002009-07-02T19:33:32.218-04:00I notice that Thibodaux's profile says he'...I notice that Thibodaux's profile says he's a computer programmer. Which makes him an expert in theology? Gee, I'm expert in programming code, too:)<br /><br />The program generally does what you sovereignly decree that it will do, doesn't it, Thibodaux? Or do programs just run off on their own free will?Charlie J. Rayhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18185331029930925967noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15388492.post-15458430127513042882009-07-02T19:14:42.924-04:002009-07-02T19:14:42.924-04:00Thibodaux said:
Charlie said, "I did not d...Thibodaux said: <br /><br />Charlie said, "I did not declare you a heretic."<br /><br />>>>But you did. You distictly stated that our 'god is free will.' Such a sweeping claim is not only an inexcusably dishonest representation of Arminian beliefs, but unmistakably a pronouncement of heresy. Does what you believe at least afford you honesty about your own statements?<Charlie J. Rayhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18185331029930925967noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15388492.post-79528805076799799082009-07-02T09:20:01.747-04:002009-07-02T09:20:01.747-04:00Of course.
I am at a loss as to how this satirica...Of course.<br /><br /><i>I am at a loss as to how this satirical piece is supposed to demonstrate "love" and an "irenic" spirit....</i><br /><br />Sophistry. Please explain exactly how satire can't be irenic.<br /><br /><br /><i>In short, Arminianism leaves salvation up to capricious and sinful human beings...</i> <br /><br />Nonsensical posturing. You're setting up a J.C. Thibodauxhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12884600822119690931noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15388492.post-75899194404656311972009-07-01T19:50:15.034-04:002009-07-01T19:50:15.034-04:00Would you care to clarify? Ron Fay is a minister ...Would you care to clarify? Ron Fay is a minister of a church with no doctrinal statement. The Lord only knows what sorts of heresy his church teaches?<br /><br />I stand on the confession of faith expressed in the 39 Articles and several other Reformed confessions which are much more detailed.<br /><br />Sorry if telling the world what I actually believe bothers you:)Charlie J. Rayhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18185331029930925967noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15388492.post-40411023498224856162009-07-01T11:55:59.187-04:002009-07-01T11:55:59.187-04:00My, my. You have quite the penchant for ill-inform...My, my. You have quite the penchant for ill-informed sophistry and intellectual dishonesty.J.C. Thibodauxhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12884600822119690931noreply@blogger.com