Click on these links to hear a streaming audio of the debate between Richard Mouw and David Engelsma.
"A Debate On Common Grace 9/12/ 03 Distributed by the Evangelism Society of Southeast Protestant Reformed Church, Grand Rapids, Michigan."
For Mouw's presentation of the affirmative view click here: Mouw Affirms Common Grace
For Engelsma's negative assessment click here: David Engelma's Negative Assessement of Common Grace
For the rebuttals section of the debate click here: Rebuttals by Both Debaters
For the question and answer segment click here: Question and Answer Segment
You can click on the title of this article to see the original web page where this debate is posted. There is a full transcript of the debate, rebuttals, and question and answer segments. Click here: Is the Doctrine of Common Grace Reformed?
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"One important question is how the "true light, that enlightens everyone" operates. Is it a steady illumination? If we conceive of all human nature as always and everywhere graced, as many contemporary Catholic theologians do, what would be the result? On the one hand, we would be genuinely open to truth, insight, and goodness wherever we find them. We would also recognize that God is behind that truth and goodness. Unfortunately, considering divine illumination this way often blurs the distinction between the saved and the unsaved. Some theologians begin to treat the good impulses of those who do not know Jesus as if they have the potential to save. Noble Buddhists and Hindus, whether they want it or not, get labeled "anonymous Christians." The constant illumination model does not require us to end up with hope-so universalism, but it has often led Christians there."
From a review of Richard Mouw's book, He Shines in All That's Fair.
Why God Enjoys Baseball."
The Wider Mercy view???
I disagree with R. Scott Clark on the doctrine of common grace. Essentially the doctrine leads to liberalism:
For God So Loved the World
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