tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15388492.post1070370775297132123..comments2024-03-27T20:28:38.015-04:00Comments on Reasonable Christian: What Is Sola Scriptura? Do We Reject All Tradition?Charlie J. Rayhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/18185331029930925967noreply@blogger.comBlogger12125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15388492.post-18526931780020507962009-03-07T07:07:00.000-05:002009-03-07T07:07:00.000-05:00Hi, Phil....Well I later learned that the AC guy w...Hi, Phil....<BR/><BR/>Well I later learned that the AC guy who did comment over at VOL wasn't a genuine AC fellow anyway. He's a part of a very small AC continuing sect called Anglican Catholic Church. You might recognize that name. It's the same continuing church Charles Morley left when he started the TPEC.<BR/><BR/>CharlieCharlie J. Rayhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18185331029930925967noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15388492.post-19953039987426517672009-03-07T03:57:00.000-05:002009-03-07T03:57:00.000-05:00On this subject and the blogs at VOL, not pleased....On this subject and the blogs at VOL, not pleased. The bloggers didn't engage the subject.Reformationhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06818168068978748081noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15388492.post-8475333089133237002009-03-05T18:16:00.000-05:002009-03-05T18:16:00.000-05:00"And he said to them, “Go into all the world and p..."And he said to them, “Go into all the world and proclaim the gospel to the whole creation. Whoever believes and is baptized will be saved, but whoever does not believe will be condemned." (Mark 16:15-16, ESV) [1]<BR/><BR/>I see the emphasis here is the Gospel and believing. There is nothing said at all about baptismal regeneration. The text does not say, "Whoever is not baptized will be Charlie J. Rayhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18185331029930925967noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15388492.post-11457883615028944752009-03-05T09:06:00.000-05:002009-03-05T09:06:00.000-05:00Mark 16:16Mark 16:16Billyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00718837086000788837noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15388492.post-84747191912375164512009-03-02T20:17:00.000-05:002009-03-02T20:17:00.000-05:00The sacraments are NOT necessary for salvation. F...The sacraments are NOT necessary for salvation. FAITH ALONE is necessary for salvation. That being said, the TWO sacraments are not optional because they are instituted alongside the Word of God as means of grace which nourish the soul, according to Cranmer. <BR/><BR/>Let me also point out that the 39 Articles teach that there are only TWO sacrament, not seven. The other 5 are in error. Charlie J. Rayhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18185331029930925967noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15388492.post-56129569576913869292009-03-02T20:13:00.000-05:002009-03-02T20:13:00.000-05:00You are a dissimulator at best. I am currently re...You are a dissimulator at best. I am currently reading Cranmer's writings on the Sacrament of the Lord's Supper and Cranmer over and over and over again denies real presence, bodily presence, consubstantiation, et. al.<BR/><BR/>However, you did not bother to read my response on VOL. I clearly said that I do not hold to the bare memorial view. I in fact hold to Calvin's view and I would contendCharlie J. Rayhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18185331029930925967noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15388492.post-40953258991531978682009-03-02T19:46:00.000-05:002009-03-02T19:46:00.000-05:00Well, if you really want to post the comments, the...Well, if you really want to post the comments, then post my reply, as follows:<BR/><BR/>Charlie Ray wrote:<BR/><BR/>"Perhaps our Anglo-Catholic friend should go to the primary sources instead of secondary sources? I would be more than happy to provide the quotes direcly from Cranmer if you wish. But your quote from the homily more than supports what I have just said. The 'signs' are only 'Fr. Robert Harthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05892141425033196616noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15388492.post-54813880418298131612009-03-01T21:06:00.000-05:002009-03-01T21:06:00.000-05:00Re: What Is Sola Scriptura? Do We Reject All Tradi...Re: What Is Sola Scriptura? Do We Reject All Tradition?<BR/>Article XXVIII<BR/>Of the Lord's Supper<BR/>The Supper of the Lord is not only a sign of the love that Christians ought to have among themselves, one to another, but rather it is a sacrament of our redemption by Christ's death: insomuch that to such as rightly, worthily, and with faith receive the same, the bread which we break is a Charlie J. Rayhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18185331029930925967noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15388492.post-16353157496164811042009-03-01T20:41:00.000-05:002009-03-01T20:41:00.000-05:00Just in case, I'm posting the following before it ...Just in case, I'm posting the following before it gets deleted from VOL: <BR/><BR/>e: What Is Sola Scriptura? Do We Reject All Tradition?<BR/>Whereas there are many true points made here, Charlie Ray needs to examine both Cranmer and Hooker a bit closer. The result of careful and thorough reading does not lead to the conclusion that the sacraments are, to use the words of those Reformers, "bare Charlie J. Rayhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18185331029930925967noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15388492.post-19777671512787833692009-03-01T19:42:00.000-05:002009-03-01T19:42:00.000-05:00VOL has a reputation for cutting off/out/away Engl...VOL has a reputation for cutting off/out/away English Reformed citations. This was reported in The English Churchman a few months back by an FCE-EC Bishop. I feel they trot out a few known defenders when difficult posts are made like your's. Too bad James Packer or Peter Toon don't write articles on sola scriptura. Especially the latter since he wrote a modest work entitled Evangelical ReponseReformationhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06818168068978748081noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15388492.post-77875601560584439962009-03-01T16:18:00.000-05:002009-03-01T16:18:00.000-05:00Yes, David Virtue probably deleted the comments. ...Yes, David Virtue probably deleted the comments. Some Anglo-Catholic commented and I responded. I have a feeling it was William or "Billy" Jenkins, an Anglo-Catholic REC fellow in Pennsylvania. <BR/><BR/>David Virtue actually thinks Peter Toon is not Anglo-Catholic. Virtue says Toon is a Reformed Catholic. The problem is Toon is trying to be via media between Anglo-Catholic and Protestant Charlie J. Rayhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18185331029930925967noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15388492.post-70277451049078920962009-03-01T15:00:00.000-05:002009-03-01T15:00:00.000-05:00This article was posted on VOL this morning. It h...This article was posted on VOL this morning. It had three comments. This afternoon, those three comments were erased. VOL's moderators favour AC's. Good article.Reformationhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06818168068978748081noreply@blogger.com