tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15388492.post115707443793272146..comments2024-03-27T20:28:38.015-04:00Comments on Reasonable Christian: Calvinist and Anglican?Charlie J. Rayhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/18185331029930925967noreply@blogger.comBlogger20125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15388492.post-58335864901786608842016-05-15T17:18:07.428-04:002016-05-15T17:18:07.428-04:00AOC or AOC Intl or whatever is not a Reformed or P...AOC or AOC Intl or whatever is not a Reformed or Protestant denomination. They are a mix of Arminians, moderate Calvinists, and high church Anglo-Catholics. In short, this is an old article and at the time I was unaware of just how far off Jerry Ogles really is. In addition to that, the AOC uses the 1928 Book of Common Prayer, which is an Anglo-Catholic prayer book that includes prayers for the Charlie J. Rayhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18185331029930925967noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15388492.post-88935873442628903832016-05-06T00:57:33.742-04:002016-05-06T00:57:33.742-04:00Today, Bishops Ogles and Morley are now the Anglic...Today, Bishops Ogles and Morley are now the Anglican Orthodox Church, Int'l.<br /><br /><i>The Anglican Orthodox Church (AOC) is one of the older conservative Anglican denominations in the United States (founded in 1963).... Our founding bishop was James Parker Dees....</i><br />Hugh McCannhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03267834741936303800noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15388492.post-53814738522995002042013-11-09T12:40:19.150-05:002013-11-09T12:40:19.150-05:00jaan, the Roman Catholic Church is a synagogue of ...jaan, the Roman Catholic Church is a synagogue of satan and the pope is an antichrist. You follow men. I will follow God's infallible, inerrant, and inspired words in the Holy Scriptures. (2 Timothy 3:15-17; 2 Peter 1:19-21; 2 Peter 3:15-16).Charlie J. Rayhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18185331029930925967noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15388492.post-43496869474072858852013-11-09T12:21:47.952-05:002013-11-09T12:21:47.952-05:00Interesting your view. Of God salvation and theolo...Interesting your view. Of God salvation and theology has to be read into the church fathers and early councils. I am glad that I converted to Rome and am tired of protestant disregard of the church of the previous 1400 yrs. Scriptures were never intended to be read as theology but understood in union with the mind of the church and early councils that put it together as we have it todayjaanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15647992673897555434noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15388492.post-39965393192700304592011-06-16T20:42:24.770-04:002011-06-16T20:42:24.770-04:00Sorry. Those last two comments were directed to c...Sorry. Those last two comments were directed to cwillcuts, not b. edge.Charlie J. Rayhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18185331029930925967noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15388492.post-66049250565077562402011-06-16T20:15:57.635-04:002011-06-16T20:15:57.635-04:00My observation is that TEC is not tolerant of cons...My observation is that TEC is not tolerant of conservative Calvinists like myself. The fact that you're a charismatic shows how naive you are, b. edge. The charismatic movement is itself heterodox and has no commitment to Scripture as THE final authority. Rather "experience" gets exalted to a higher place. Ecstasy isn't truth. Sorry.<br /><br />CharlieCharlie J. Rayhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18185331029930925967noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15388492.post-77744163933129670472011-06-16T20:12:53.241-04:002011-06-16T20:12:53.241-04:00b. edge: Just how many good works do I need to do...b. edge: Just how many good works do I need to do in order to be justified? How sanctified do I need to be in order to be saved?<br /><br />Is there some sort of human measuring rod I can apply to make sure I've done enough good works to prove to God I have real faith?<br /><br />Hint: James is dealing NOT with our justification before God but our testimony before men and the church. The Charlie J. Rayhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18185331029930925967noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15388492.post-3565122049754749062011-06-16T01:43:57.994-04:002011-06-16T01:43:57.994-04:00Charlie –
Thank you very much for at least bringi...Charlie – <br />Thank you very much for at least bringing the awareness that Anglicanism has its roots in Reformation Theology – and that classical Anglican practices of worship and proclamation have been essentially ‘Reformed.’ I am actually aspiring to join the priesthood of the Episcopal Church, and of course I’m sure that you and I may find disagreements as to how far one should go in ‘cwillcuts05https://www.blogger.com/profile/00594335117459563848noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15388492.post-5457300351603912282011-04-27T19:50:06.617-04:002011-04-27T19:50:06.617-04:00ASpie, the Episcopal Church is not confessional fo...ASpie, the Episcopal Church is not confessional for good reason. It is an apostate church and a synagogue of satan.<br /><br />The only local congregation I've encountered that might be an exception is Christ Church Longwood and there are many unsaved members in that tiny church.<br /><br />Calvinism is Christianity. I might add that true Anglicanism is not some amorphous blend of Charlie J. Rayhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18185331029930925967noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15388492.post-58107835424349667822011-04-27T00:54:36.396-04:002011-04-27T00:54:36.396-04:00Well, Charlie, no argument from me on that point. ...Well, Charlie, no argument from me on that point. I'm a strict monergist myself. However, there are some great Anglican theologians embraced by Christendom at large, most don't think of them as Anglican, like J.I. Packer and John R. W. Stott. The Episcopal Church is a strange church indeed. Most strangely, we are not a confessional church, so theological diversity ranges from the more AspieChristianhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14290921506622819909noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15388492.post-35412616995201397732011-04-24T07:55:44.401-04:002011-04-24T07:55:44.401-04:00The Traditional Protestant Episcopal Church and th...The Traditional Protestant Episcopal Church and the Church of England Continuing are not Calvinist as I previously thought. Instead they are a mix of both Arminians and Calvinists. In short the Calvinists there seem to think that Arminianism is not a compromise of the Gospel. I strongly disagree.<br /><br />CharlieCharlie J. Rayhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18185331029930925967noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15388492.post-44127427659693456002010-07-20T09:24:19.968-04:002010-07-20T09:24:19.968-04:00b. edge,
Amen. I pray that God will use you. Ho...b. edge,<br /><br />Amen. I pray that God will use you. However, there are many who are unconverted and have a false security in their own righteousness and good works.<br /><br /> Brothers, my heart's desire and prayer to God for them is that they may be saved. 2 For I bear them witness that they have a zeal for God, but not according to knowledge. 3 For, being ignorant of the Charlie J. Rayhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18185331029930925967noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15388492.post-2205034372021100552010-07-20T09:07:58.640-04:002010-07-20T09:07:58.640-04:00Perhaps I wasn't clear enough. I don't bel...Perhaps I wasn't clear enough. I don't believe they're necessarily headed toward Calvinism, but I do believe they're open. As I mentioned in part, since I've been there, I've heard folks mention doubt in their eternal security, and a lack of feeling worthy of God's blessings because of it. I see this as an opportunity to ask, "What if you could know for certain AspieChristianhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14290921506622819909noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15388492.post-90677537630379706722010-07-17T20:30:35.022-04:002010-07-17T20:30:35.022-04:00b. edge,
I have to strongly disagree with you. ...b. edge, <br /><br />I have to strongly disagree with you. If your church is charismatic and emphasizes "transformation" and "sanctification" and "spiritual growth" then it is not preaching the doctrines of grace but a synergistic/cooperation view of God's grace. That is essentially Arminianism. From my experience Episcopal churches do not preach justificationCharlie J. Rayhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18185331029930925967noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15388492.post-15079214734257297662010-07-17T14:11:18.884-04:002010-07-17T14:11:18.884-04:00I would even say that for much of the Episcopal cl...I would even say that for much of the Episcopal clergy, the way to renewal is the adoption of elements of Roman Catholic renewal (i.e. Taize).<br /><br />The Episcopal church I attend is going in a completely different direction - that is, toward charismatic evangelicalism. We have a connection with IVP, we're exploring the gifts of the Spirit, experiencing short periods of free-form worship,AspieChristianhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14290921506622819909noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15388492.post-16805397959643364152010-07-15T09:01:25.219-04:002010-07-15T09:01:25.219-04:00Hi, b. edge. Thanks for your kind remarks. Howev...Hi, b. edge. Thanks for your kind remarks. However, I think Anglicanism in the US and in general is in need of a new Reformation. I would not go so far as to go too far in the Puritan direction but the truth is most Episcopal churches here are more Anglo-Catholic than Reformed.<br /><br />The very Gospel is under attack in the Anglican Communion at large and here in the US in particular.<br />Charlie J. Rayhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18185331029930925967noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15388492.post-21720131172695186322010-07-15T00:59:08.883-04:002010-07-15T00:59:08.883-04:00This is a really great blog you've got here. L...This is a really great blog you've got here. Looking forward to coming back.AspieChristianhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14290921506622819909noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15388492.post-59329059324731564882010-07-15T00:53:27.299-04:002010-07-15T00:53:27.299-04:00I'm 56 years old. I grew up Presbyterian in th...I'm 56 years old. I grew up Presbyterian in the south. I attended an Arminian bible school, a Wesleyan college, and a Roman Catholic college. After spending many years in the charismatic movement, mainly in the Vineyard Church, I was just minding my own business, as one would say, when the notion of the centrality of the Eucharist began to work itself in me, and from where, I can only say it AspieChristianhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14290921506622819909noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15388492.post-49576118376236427902010-03-06T10:02:10.408-05:002010-03-06T10:02:10.408-05:00The Reformed Episcopal Church is no longer Evangel...The Reformed Episcopal Church is no longer Evangelical for the most part. There are pockets here and there and there is the Southeastern Diocese. For the most part, however, the REC has gone Anglo-Catholic. There are also Arminians in the REC. Arminians are Evangelical but not Reformed.Charlie J. Rayhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18185331029930925967noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15388492.post-84025106881145971552010-03-05T22:08:47.613-05:002010-03-05T22:08:47.613-05:00don't leave out the Reformed Episcopal Church,...don't leave out the Reformed Episcopal Church, they are thoroughly reformed/calvinist and anglicanAnonymousnoreply@blogger.com