tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15388492.post2365643705175861984..comments2024-03-27T20:28:38.015-04:00Comments on Reasonable Christian: Comment on the Sola Fide Article at VOL?Charlie J. Rayhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/18185331029930925967noreply@blogger.comBlogger13125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15388492.post-61973678000460177072009-07-02T21:41:40.845-04:002009-07-02T21:41:40.845-04:00Hi Hugh,
You kind of made me crack up when I read ...Hi Hugh,<br />You kind of made me crack up when I read your post...precisely because the thought crossed my mind when I wrote about the money changers that there was a time, and still exists to this day, some who sell salvation in the Roman church. <br />As far as the definition of true catholicity...I'm just quoting what the Athanasian Creed says...you don't have to believe it. But theBillyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00718837086000788837noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15388492.post-77785295081361687982009-07-02T18:54:54.109-04:002009-07-02T18:54:54.109-04:00Hi Charlie,
I could not post this @ yer blog, as...Hi Charlie,<br /> <br />I could not post this @ yer blog, as I don't have a Google account. Veitch's blog has an "anonymous" commenting feature-- very helpful!<br /> <br />Yours,<br />Hugh<br /> <br /> <br />Billy said:<br />...even if you believe Anglo-Catholics or anyone else not to be believers, I would urge you to be more peacable. Calling someone an "abominable Charlie J. Rayhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18185331029930925967noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15388492.post-91744742432513434802009-07-01T23:29:09.170-04:002009-07-01T23:29:09.170-04:00Billy, check out:
www.reformationanglicanism.blog...Billy, check out:<br /><br />www.reformationanglicanism.blogspot.com.<br /><br />"Gospel Freedom or Priestly Tyranny?"Reformationhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06818168068978748081noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15388492.post-57620657004135925422009-07-01T22:03:48.409-04:002009-07-01T22:03:48.409-04:00Billy, I checked the link you provided. No Reform...Billy, I checked the link you provided. No Reformed scholar says that Augustine has a full blown Reformed view on anything. However, that being said, Augustine's theology of double predestination and God's absolute sovereignty in salvation over against pelagianism shoots down the author's contention that Augustine believed in "cooperation." Hogwash. Clearly Augustine Charlie J. Rayhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18185331029930925967noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15388492.post-35956942527173639442009-07-01T21:56:12.844-04:002009-07-01T21:56:12.844-04:00Cranmer's view of justification by faith alone...Cranmer's view of justification by faith alone is that it is a "necessary" doctrine:<br /><br />http://www.ccel.org/ccel/cranmer/doctrine/files/doctrine.htmlCharlie J. Rayhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18185331029930925967noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15388492.post-44166682212637975762009-07-01T21:53:56.066-04:002009-07-01T21:53:56.066-04:00Billy, the 39 Articles are themselves a creed and ...Billy, the 39 Articles are themselves a creed and of necessity, you cannot accept only Articles 1-8 when Articles 9-18 deal with SOTERIOLOGY. HELLO! You cannot pick and choose which parts of the Articles you will believe and which you will not. The Articles are required for faith as a Christian and you cannot be an Anglican Christian while rejecting the Articles or revising them to fit your Charlie J. Rayhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18185331029930925967noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15388492.post-25571507924740821722009-07-01T21:26:00.495-04:002009-07-01T21:26:00.495-04:00The thing is, I didn't endorse Trent. It has ...The thing is, I didn't endorse Trent. It has its own issues. <br /><br />I don't expect I'm as well read as you, you are a good bit older than I am...that's not an insult I'm just saying it's natural you should have read more than me. But I don't have to read any farther than the 39 Articles which say the Athanasian Creed is supported by Scripture, and the Creed saysBillyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00718837086000788837noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15388492.post-89692823544559413442009-07-01T20:19:19.682-04:002009-07-01T20:19:19.682-04:00Billy:
No doubt about Paul's polemic against ...Billy:<br /><br />No doubt about Paul's polemic against a false Gospel. Whether you like the Pope or not, Trent promotes a false Gospel. Every Reformer, English included, believed that.<br /><br />You need to run down some historic books and read them. For free downloads and recommendations, see www.reformationanglicanism.blogspot.com<br /><br />It needs to be sorted out once and for all, Reformationhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06818168068978748081noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15388492.post-89762234995918380742009-07-01T19:44:26.388-04:002009-07-01T19:44:26.388-04:00Let me add, Billy, that the 39 Articles in their e...Let me add, Billy, that the 39 Articles in their entirety summarize the "confession" of faith of the English Reformation. It is binding doctrine precisely because it is derived from Scripture and wherever it is solidly Scriptural it is in fact binding doctrine. That most surely includes the doctrine of justification by faith alone and the doctrine of total depravity. You have also Charlie J. Rayhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18185331029930925967noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15388492.post-5201673178741623132009-07-01T19:37:51.345-04:002009-07-01T19:37:51.345-04:00Ok, Billy. Let me begin with point 1. You conven...Ok, Billy. Let me begin with point 1. You conveniently ignored the point of the story of the woman caught in adultery. She was guilty of adultery and was caught openly in sin and deserved the penalty of the law, which was stoning to death.<br /><br />The Pharisees and the "self-righteous" wanted to carry out the law. Read in here any group teaching justification by merits and good Charlie J. Rayhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18185331029930925967noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15388492.post-69722198190511747172009-07-01T17:52:48.431-04:002009-07-01T17:52:48.431-04:00I know I am going to regret commenting on this, be...I know I am going to regret commenting on this, because I will likely receive a harsh rebuke if I don't agree with you entirely.<br /><br />You said "If Anglo-Catholics are preaching a false gospel of works righteousness...then I do not see how polemically challenging such false doctrines is unloving."<br /><br />There are two reasons it is unloving. 1.) precisely because there is Billyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00718837086000788837noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15388492.post-28269028880338825702009-06-25T19:46:54.934-04:002009-06-25T19:46:54.934-04:00Charlie, you r the only man commenting on these is...Charlie, you r the only man commenting on these issues...do u realize this? VOL is a sell-out. U r not. Nor am I. VeitchReformationhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06818168068978748081noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15388492.post-27576764395473876052009-06-25T19:45:04.104-04:002009-06-25T19:45:04.104-04:00VOL protects a Packerian-ecumenicity (AAK with Rom...VOL protects a Packerian-ecumenicity (AAK with Romanists, e.g ECT) as well as Anglo-Romanizer like Ackerman and Iker. VOL is weak, period. We must move beyond the ACNA.Reformationhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06818168068978748081noreply@blogger.com