tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15388492.post463722950600504802..comments2024-03-27T20:28:38.015-04:00Comments on Reasonable Christian: Tragic or Funny? Mary Loses Her Head!Charlie J. Rayhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/18185331029930925967noreply@blogger.comBlogger18125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15388492.post-46050297602178785202010-02-12T15:53:29.681-05:002010-02-12T15:53:29.681-05:00Yes, I saw the crown on the head. Probably is a s...Yes, I saw the crown on the head. Probably is a statue of Mary.Charlie J. Rayhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18185331029930925967noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15388492.post-51999653337007771472010-02-12T12:23:33.360-05:002010-02-12T12:23:33.360-05:00Billy,
More from our papal pals (not paypal!):
F...Billy,<br /><br />More from our papal pals (not paypal!):<br /><br />From the Catechism (@ vatican.va/archive/catechism/p123a9p6.htm):<br /><br />I. MARY'S MOTHERHOOD WITH REGARD TO THE CHURCH<br />...966 "Finally the Immaculate Virgin, preserved free from all stain of original sin, when the course of her earthly life was finished, was taken up body and soul into heavenly glory, and Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15388492.post-91005660491199967652010-02-12T12:14:59.886-05:002010-02-12T12:14:59.886-05:00Charlie,
The crown of stars (Rev 12) points to Ma...Charlie,<br /><br />The crown of stars (Rev 12) points to Mary, & she appears to be in a dress. <br /><br />Maybe Boy George, but not England's patron saint!<br /><br />HughAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15388492.post-35007215466213192112010-02-12T10:22:09.665-05:002010-02-12T10:22:09.665-05:00In fairness to the Catholics, someone pointed out ...In fairness to the Catholics, someone pointed out to me that the statue might be one of St. George, not Mary. The age and value of the statue is rumored to be old and high. But even so, the remarks here about Mary remain valid and the video is funny, which is why it was used on America's Funniest Videos in the first place.<br /><br />Even if it is a statue of George, the idea that we would Charlie J. Rayhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18185331029930925967noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15388492.post-78712553053003407122010-02-12T10:17:19.282-05:002010-02-12T10:17:19.282-05:00"Mary is blessed above all women for her role..."Mary is blessed above all women for her role in redemptive history." The Bible does not say that Mary is "above" all women. It says she is "highly favored AMONG women." In other words, she's just another woman but one who has received grace and mercy and favor from God, as all sinful women do.<br /><br /><br />And Elizabeth swas filled with the Holy Spirit, 42 Charlie J. Rayhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18185331029930925967noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15388492.post-68048599721017368712010-02-12T10:14:18.195-05:002010-02-12T10:14:18.195-05:00Isaiah 2:8Isaiah 2:8Charlie J. Rayhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18185331029930925967noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15388492.post-78505869162427355762010-02-11T23:31:42.173-05:002010-02-11T23:31:42.173-05:00AC Bill,
You mention "Cherubim carved out in...AC Bill,<br /><br />You mention "Cherubim carved out in gold on top of the Ark of the Covenant. The same Jews who depicted Cherubim on the veil in the tabernacle. The same Jews who were commanded to lift up the serpent in the wilderness."<br /><br />The key there is "commanded," as you rightly said. Of course, commanded by God, not a church council or papally ex cathedra.<br /Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15388492.post-89554813333353976202010-02-11T23:09:40.248-05:002010-02-11T23:09:40.248-05:00No offense, Billy, but could you please make up yo...No offense, Billy, but could you please make up your mind? Is Mary sinless or is Mary a sinner? The Bible says Jesus is without sin. Show me even one verse of Scripture that says Mary is sinless? It's not there. But the Bible does say that ALL are sinners. This would mean everyone without exception, with the one exception of Jesus, the Son of God.<br /><br />I'm not quoting Charlie J. Rayhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18185331029930925967noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15388492.post-28974773194498489302010-02-11T22:57:10.134-05:002010-02-11T22:57:10.134-05:00I don't understand your comment about Rome des...I don't understand your comment about Rome destroying your body. And I didn't say Mary is without sin..just that a catholic who knows what they are talking about will tell you that while Mary is sinless, it is not based on anything at all within her own merit, but only "in view of the merits of Christ." (Ineffabilis Deus) <br />And, no offense, but your "it doesn't Billyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00718837086000788837noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15388492.post-40730097801438173132010-02-11T22:45:35.466-05:002010-02-11T22:45:35.466-05:00I have no problem with religious art. The real pr...I have no problem with religious art. The real problem here is this isn't art. It's an idol. And, Billy, it really does not matter to me what Rome says but what does Scripture say? The Bible says clearly and without equivocation that Mary is a sinner (Romans 3:23). It also says that only Jesus is without sin. (1 Peter 2:22; 1 John 3:5; John 8:53-55).<br />So am I supposed to be Charlie J. Rayhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18185331029930925967noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15388492.post-73525537338772435452010-02-11T19:14:45.266-05:002010-02-11T19:14:45.266-05:00The use of images is something that is always walk...The use of images is something that is always walking along a narrow line. The commandment concerning graven images has to be read in the context of God's command to create images of cherubim, etc., in the making of the ark of the covenant. <br /><br />When one begins to worship the image, the line is crossed. The Jews did not worship the images around the ark. But what is going on with Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15388492.post-38026049740047103712010-02-11T12:46:27.671-05:002010-02-11T12:46:27.671-05:00I don't see how having a statue is tragic. No...I don't see how having a statue is tragic. Nor do I understand your reference to how the Jews understood idolatry. These would be the same Jews who had Cherubim carved out in gold on top of the Ark of the Covenant. The same Jews who depicted Cherubim on the veil in the tabernacle. The same Jews who were commanded to lift up the serpent in the wilderness. <br /><br />There is nothing Billyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00718837086000788837noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15388492.post-4049272814444765622010-02-11T12:11:39.131-05:002010-02-11T12:11:39.131-05:00A.C. Billy,
Keep reading Charlie's blog and h...A.C. Billy,<br /><br />Keep reading Charlie's blog and he'll help massage your paradox cramp with some biblical logic.<br /><br />Don't confuse Rome's idol with Mary.<br /><br />As for idolatry, what else would a statue be for?<br /><br />If this was a Romish (or Rome-sympathetic) church, then its worship of Mary is not only well-attested, but mandated by its pope & Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15388492.post-2607177318099829372010-02-11T10:27:56.501-05:002010-02-11T10:27:56.501-05:00Sic semper idoli.
That's a Roman Catholic cha...Sic semper idoli.<br /><br />That's a Roman Catholic chapel, so theirs is not a surprising reaction.<br /><br />I do feel a twinge of sympathy at what must have been a stomach-twisting experience for the old ladies - then again, when you focus your faith on a creature of plaster, you're in for a shock, either in this world or the next.kmfryehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04538368150900837529noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15388492.post-59601074995802096102010-02-11T01:46:09.736-05:002010-02-11T01:46:09.736-05:00Billy, I consider the veneration of icons and stat...Billy, I consider the veneration of icons and statues as idolatry. Scripture seems to support that since the Jews understood it that way. Thou shalt not make unto thee any graven images.<br /><br />While I consider this a tragedy, it also struck me as funny. The tragedy, of course, is that they have a statue of Mary in the first place. We should be exalting the Word of God, not statues. And Charlie J. Rayhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18185331029930925967noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15388492.post-46672140153383742912010-02-11T01:00:18.989-05:002010-02-11T01:00:18.989-05:00Reposted it on Facebook. It is only a statue! Bu...Reposted it on Facebook. It is only a statue! But idolatrous AC's would be equally horrified.CB in Cahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17225113241202471270noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15388492.post-54161507985022503942010-02-10T23:46:51.940-05:002010-02-10T23:46:51.940-05:00I'm not sure how that could be considered funn...I'm not sure how that could be considered funny. Unless the people there were worshipping the statue, this is not idolatry. I don't know their hearts, so I won't be the judge of that. <br />Mary is blessed above all women for her role in redemptive history. To even imply that a statue in her honor breaking is funny is despicable. <br /><br />My father's family lost all of Billyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00718837086000788837noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15388492.post-38010771091206401372010-02-10T22:34:53.864-05:002010-02-10T22:34:53.864-05:00Definitely funny that anyone would react in such h...Definitely funny that anyone would react in such horror over a piece of plaster shattering. I suppose tragic is a better word. On the bright side, just carrying around the head will be a whole lot easier. :)Sean Geretyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01483041680109436046noreply@blogger.com