tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15388492.post5693270685526206174..comments2024-03-27T20:28:38.015-04:00Comments on Reasonable Christian: John Piper Invites Doug Wilson to Desiring God National ConferenceCharlie J. Rayhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/18185331029930925967noreply@blogger.comBlogger12125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15388492.post-74319634726266202302009-10-26T07:57:39.030-04:002009-10-26T07:57:39.030-04:00Let me put it even more bluntly, the fact that Pip...Let me put it even more bluntly, the fact that Piper invited Wilson PROVES that Piper approves of Wilson's doctrines. Therefore, either Piper is ignorant of Wilson's compromises--which I do not for one minute believe OR Piper is in an underhanded way trying to promote Federal Vision by denying that he really believes it and sneaking it in.<br /><br />This is the tactic used by satan. HeCharlie J. Rayhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18185331029930925967noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15388492.post-2104014460207903532009-10-26T07:54:32.295-04:002009-10-26T07:54:32.295-04:00Mr. Anonymous,
First of all, the doctrine of sola...Mr. Anonymous,<br /><br />First of all, the doctrine of sola Scriptura and the priesthood of believers would say that we must test every minister by God's Word. We do not simply accept what they say at face value. This approach is why there are so many false teachers out there.<br /><br />Piper may not be "totally apostate." However, Piper's charismatic theology leads him Charlie J. Rayhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18185331029930925967noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15388492.post-70856159598956054622009-10-26T00:32:21.881-04:002009-10-26T00:32:21.881-04:00Charlie, your "faith" has made you paran...Charlie, your "faith" has made you paranoid. You can't even trust the plain truth spoken by a man who lives a life devoted to Christ. Do you really think you are defending the "faith once for all delivered to the saints" by claiming that Wilson and Piper are both deceptive? Sad.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15388492.post-63114937697187111162009-10-03T07:57:46.721-04:002009-10-03T07:57:46.721-04:00See also Sean Gerety's critique of the PCA in ...See also Sean Gerety's critique of the PCA in dealing with the Federal Vision: <a href="http://www.trinityfoundation.org/PDF/283-LeithartandthePCA.pdf" rel="nofollow">Peter Leithart and the PCA's Failure to Deal with the Federal Vision</a>.Charlie J. Rayhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18185331029930925967noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15388492.post-61816641675978689642009-10-03T07:50:39.664-04:002009-10-03T07:50:39.664-04:00See also: Pied PiperSee also: <a href="http://www.trinityfoundation.org/PDF/197a-PiedPiper.pdf" rel="nofollow">Pied Piper</a>Charlie J. Rayhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18185331029930925967noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15388492.post-25536018628243470402009-10-03T07:45:12.940-04:002009-10-03T07:45:12.940-04:00Daniel,
I sincerely appreciate your sincerity. H...Daniel,<br /><br />I sincerely appreciate your sincerity. However, it seems to me that your emotional attachment to the church and your pastor has clouded your objectivity. The articles criticizing Wilson's theology are substantial. I myself have read the website where Wilson was interviewed by the church officials of his denomination and then "cleared" of the charges.<br /><br />Charlie J. Rayhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18185331029930925967noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15388492.post-91620422208594289852009-10-03T00:10:49.993-04:002009-10-03T00:10:49.993-04:00Along with Luke, I too have heard Pastor Wilson...Along with Luke, I too have heard Pastor Wilson's teaching and preaching for several years, though far less than Luke (only 4). But 4 years, you would think, is enough to understand what he says. I agree completely with Luke. Pastor Wilson does not teacher any kind of Justification by works.<br> You accuse Luke of having "never heard the real article." While I don't think that&#Daniel Foucachonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01273451591387131451noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15388492.post-26905520712933857192009-07-19T00:22:26.788-04:002009-07-19T00:22:26.788-04:00Our final redemption and final salvation is based ...Our final redemption and final salvation is based solely on Christ's works and merits which are imputed to us by faith. Any final judgment the Christian faces is for rewards and not to determine whether or not he or she is saved. To confuse justification by faith alone with a justification by good works, even in the final judgment, is still to compromise the biblical doctrine of Charlie J. Rayhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18185331029930925967noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15388492.post-80217613073149195212009-07-05T08:04:15.463-04:002009-07-05T08:04:15.463-04:00I know enough about Doug Wilson to know that he re...I know enough about Doug Wilson to know that he redefines terms from Reformed theology to fit his own agenda in the Federal Vision movement. Even Piper "admits" that Wilson has "problem areas" so if PIPER is saying that, isn't that an indication that Wilson is NOT teaching the classical Protestant and Reformed position? <br /><br />Simply because you have sat under his Charlie J. Rayhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18185331029930925967noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15388492.post-8368584966144641532009-07-04T11:46:19.235-04:002009-07-04T11:46:19.235-04:00Wouldn't you say that is what St. Paul meant w...Wouldn't you say that is what St. Paul meant when he said "Now is our salvation nearer then when we first believed."?Billyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00718837086000788837noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15388492.post-89610604515551879242009-07-03T16:26:20.823-04:002009-07-03T16:26:20.823-04:00I have to admit I'm rather astounded. I've...I have to admit I'm rather astounded. I've sat under Pastor Wilson's teaching for 15 years, and although you gentlemen may have three times the education I do (and you probably do), I have first-hand knowledge of his week-to-week preaching, his counseling, and his faithfulness. And never ONCE has he preached that we're saved by the works which we do. <br /><br />If you really uilleannmanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08344036076951918523noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15388492.post-76709972837021462852009-07-02T21:46:06.371-04:002009-07-02T21:46:06.371-04:00If you listen closely to Piper, he is more concern...If you listen closely to Piper, he is more concerned about "antinomianism" than he is about preserving objective justification by faith alone. Piper's views have an incipient Arminian tone to them where justification can only be absolutely assured in glorification rather than having an absolute assurance in the here and now based on the objective work of Christ on the cross.<br /><Charlie J. Rayhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18185331029930925967noreply@blogger.com