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Martyred for the Gospel

Martyred for the Gospel
The burning of Tharchbishop of Cant. D. Tho. Cranmer in the town dich at Oxford, with his hand first thrust into the fyre, wherwith he subscribed before. [Click on the picture to see Cranmer's last words.]

Collect of the Day

The Fifth Sunday after the Epiphany.
The Collect.

O LORD, we beseech thee to keep thy Church and household continually in thy true religion; that they who do lean only upon the hope of thy heavenly grace may evermore be defended by thy mighty power; through Jesus Christ our Lord. Amen.

Daily Bible Verse

Friday, December 24, 2010

FoxNews.com - Pat Robertson Stirs the Pot Over Marijuana Laws

FoxNews.com - Pat Robertson Stirs the Pot Over Marijuana Laws

14 comments:

NewKidontheBlogg said...

And does Pat Robertson realize how impaired the driver is who is on pot.

We have just experienced a DUI driver crash and why would we want more impaired drivers out there? Yes we are chosing to forgive the driver, but we could have lost our lives. See http://plantcityladyandfriends.blogspot.com/ May all who read this drive unimpaired.

Merry Christmas and Happy 2011, Charlie!

Sabio Lantz said...

I will make one comment here since you visited my blog -- especially since it seems you have very few folks commenting.

I am not sure why you put up the story of the burnt bishop. But this supposed quote of his last words is absolute nonsense [and yet, Biblical]:

"The second exhortation is, that next unto God, you obey your king and queen, willingly and gladly, without murmur and grudging. And not for fear of them only, but much more for the fear of God: Knowing, that they be God's ministers, appointed by God to rule and govern you. And therefore whoso resisteth them, resisteth God's ordinance."

Charlie J. Ray said...

Sabio, the good archbishop was martyred by the Papists because he dared to believe the Holy Scriptures rather than traditions of men. Be that as it may, if you have studied the Bible you might be aware of Romans chapter 13. We are indeed subject to governing authorities since they are in God's absolute sovereignty appointed over us.

But we also live in a democratic republic these days--which means that if enough voters change their minds on this issue the law could change. If in fact law does change as it has in Holland, marijuana use would no longer be a crime. And in that case you would be fighting against the authorities if you said that marijuana should be against the law. If the law does change, that would make you the rebel that you seem to imply against me.

While I view smoking of any substance including tobacco as a sin, it does not follow that marijuana or tobacco or alcohol should be illegal. Those are two completely different issues. We certainly do not live in a theocracy today and we do not live under the divine right of kings. Those days are over.

Not many folks comment here because I do not post from anonymous sources. If you are the same person who e-mailed me, I didn't say much about your blog because I didn't agree with it. C.S. Lewis, for example, was no born again Christian. His theology was most semi-pelagian and Anglo-Catholic. His views were closer to theological liberalism than to conservative, Evangelical and Reformed Christianity.

Sincerely,

Charlie

Charlie J. Ray said...

Ah, wait. I see you're from the Triangulations blog, which is atheist.

My mistake:) But I wonder why you bother quoting Archbishop Thomas Cranmer, who was indeed a Reformation era Christian? You seem to think you're pointing out an internal inconsistency in my theology?

As I stated above, there is nothing inconsistent about my views since the Scriptures allow for pagan governments. Romans 13 was written by the apostle Paul regarding the Roman empire and other pagan authorities. Civil obedience does not imply that Christians have to agree with what secular authorities rule in legal matters. For example, Christians would never obey any law ordering them to worship a caesar. Such laws are idolatry.

By the way, I'm glad you recognize that the Catholic church martyred Protestants and not atheists:) I get the feeling these days that atheists would like to outlaw religion altogether. Unfortunately, the freedom of religion is at the present time viewed as a basic human right in most democratic countries of the world.

Charlie J. Ray said...

Hi, Carol....

It seems to me that impaired driving is a completely different crime. In fact, there are ways to test for impaired driving that detect alcohol and drug use.

It's a non sequitur to assume that decriminalizing pot will automatically increase the number of impaired drivers on the road. By that logic we should make alcholic beverages illegal since legalized alcohol is inferred to increase the number of impaired drivers on the road.

Sincerely in Christ,

Charlie

Charlie J. Ray said...

Plant City Lady and Husband Hit by DUI Driver

Charlie J. Ray said...

By the way, less than 20 grams of pot is not a felony in Florida. It's a misdemeanor. I have not seen any evidence that decriminalizing 20 grams or less in the late 1970's has increased the incidence of "stoned" drivers. I could be wrong.

Charlie J. Ray said...

Merry Christmas to you as well, Miss Carol.

The Nativity of our Lord, or the Birth-day of Christ,
Commonly called Christmas-Day.


The Collect.

ALMIGHTY God, who hast given us thy only-begotten Son to take our nature upon him, and as at this time to be born of a pure Virgin; Grant that we being regenerate, and made thy children by adoption and grace, may daily be renewed by thy Holy Spirit; through the same our Lord Jesus Christ, who liveth and reigneth with thee and the same Spirit, ever one God, world without end. Amen.

NewKidontheBlogg said...

Thanks for the greeting. Sorry if I was off topic.

I don't have the statistics, but I have taught maybe 1000 students in Level One DUI classes and they get arrested for having it in the car when they drive. Some have to attend my classes because pot stays in your system for 30 days and it is found in a work-related drug test. One man in my class had a DUI because he picked up a hitch hicker who had dope.

Charlie J. Ray said...

I hope you are not suggesting that you think the people who come to your classes should go to prison for felony possession instead?

Charlie J. Ray said...

By the way, I should probably mention that Pat Robertson is not what I would call a representative of the Christian faith since his theological views are heterodox at best.

Sabio Lantz said...

It is fun to watch Christians in many different traditions call each other non-orthodox. Everyone is heterodox to everyone else. Presciptionist will be with us always.

Charlie J. Ray said...

It's even more fun to watch atheists get excited over past episodes of Star Trek:)

Charlie J. Ray said...

What's even more amusing is when atheists complain about over-generalizing atheists and then turn around and ignore basic theological distinctions and differences within the general umbrella of Christianity. As if the Protestant Reformation never happened?

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