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Martyred for the Gospel

Martyred for the Gospel
The burning of Tharchbishop of Cant. D. Tho. Cranmer in the town dich at Oxford, with his hand first thrust into the fyre, wherwith he subscribed before. [Click on the picture to see Cranmer's last words.]

Collect of the Day

The Fifth Sunday after the Epiphany.
The Collect.

O LORD, we beseech thee to keep thy Church and household continually in thy true religion; that they who do lean only upon the hope of thy heavenly grace may evermore be defended by thy mighty power; through Jesus Christ our Lord. Amen.

Daily Bible Verse

Saturday, February 23, 2013

Assurance | God's Hammer

Assurance | God's Hammer

8 comments:

Drake Shelton said...

I saw your comments at God's Hammer about my supposed misunderstanding of Eastern Orthodoxy.

I have shown that the association with my view and the Eastern view was fair because of Thomas Hopko. I understand that they traditionally teach the same thing as the west, but there are confused traditions in that Church. There is no monolithic Eastern view of this. I have openly rejected the Eastern Church as an institution, though there are many in that communion who hold to the truth, as teaching Sabellianism.

http://eternalpropositions.wordpress.com/2012/11/20/the-sabellian-eastern-orthodox/

http://eternalpropositions.wordpress.com/2012/11/30/the-sabellian-eastern-orthodox-part-2/

Charlie J. Ray said...

The Eastern Orthodox Church is not Sabellian. They officially accept eight ecumenical councils, all of which are orthodox in doctrine. And Sean Gerety has accused you of teaching a form of Arianism in which you deny the deity of Christ. Now you're saying that you're a modalist?

Drake Shelton said...

Charlie,

I linked two article showing their Sabellianism. Asserting that I am wrong is simply your opinion.

"And Sean Gerety has accused you of teaching a form of Arianism"

>>>Which he failed to prove. I have shown that his Filioque theology, if he has even read a paragraph on the issue, operates off of Arian assumptions. The Arian position required causation to be a divine attribute, just like filioque.

I have shown that my is precisely what was meant by the Nicene Creed 325.

"Now you're saying that you're a modalist?"

>>>Can you provide a single statement I have made that would lead you to believe I affirm modalism?

Charlie J. Ray said...

You linked to sites that are not Eastern Orthodox but something else. OK, you cite heretical groups. You can even create you own heretical hate groups. That doesn't prove anything.

Secondly, as much as Sean Gerety must hate to admit it, I had you pegged from day one. You don't believe that Jesus is God.

Drake Shelton said...

Charlie,

You know the word God when used in an unqualified sense can mean many things. You are a Sabellian as well. The hallmark of Sabellianism is that Christ is Yahweh in the same sense the Father is.

But you are not going to study these issues so I could care less. I showed you are a liar with the EO accusation and you completely avoided those links.

I will never be wasting my time here again.

Charlie J. Ray said...

Sabellian modalism does not simply teach that the Logos and the Father share the same essence. The modalist view says that the three persons of the Godhead are just masks of the same Person, namely the Father. The orthodox view endorsed by both the East and the West is expressed in the Apostles Creed, the Nicene Creed and the Athanasian Creed. The only exception is that the East rejects the Filioque clause in the Nicene Creed and the Athanasian Creed. Both East and West agree that Arianism and Sabellian modalism are heresies.

Charlie J. Ray said...

Yahweh generally refers to the Father, not Jesus.

Charlie J. Ray said...

If you had read either Gordon H. Clark's book on the Trinity or Robert L. Reymond's systematic theology you would know that the begetting of the Logos of the Father takes place in eternity, not time. Therefore it is not Arianism. Secondly, the procession of the Holy Spirit is likewise and eternal proceeding. All three Persons of the Godhead are equally God and in possession of eternal aseity.

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