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Martyred for the Gospel

Martyred for the Gospel
The burning of Tharchbishop of Cant. D. Tho. Cranmer in the town dich at Oxford, with his hand first thrust into the fyre, wherwith he subscribed before. [Click on the picture to see Cranmer's last words.]

Collect of the Day

The Fifth Sunday after the Epiphany.
The Collect.

O LORD, we beseech thee to keep thy Church and household continually in thy true religion; that they who do lean only upon the hope of thy heavenly grace may evermore be defended by thy mighty power; through Jesus Christ our Lord. Amen.

Daily Bible Verse

Monday, October 20, 2008

Is the Doctrine of Common Grace Reformed? An Audio Debate Between Richard J. Mouw and David Engelsma

Click on these links to hear a streaming audio of the debate between Richard Mouw and David Engelsma.

"A Debate On Common Grace 9/12/ 03 Distributed by the Evangelism Society of Southeast Protestant Reformed Church, Grand Rapids, Michigan."

For Mouw's presentation of the affirmative view click here:  Mouw Affirms Common Grace

For Engelsma's negative assessment click here: David Engelma's Negative Assessement of Common Grace

For the rebuttals section of the debate click here: Rebuttals by Both Debaters

For the question and answer segment click here: Question and Answer Segment


You can click on the title of this article to see the original web page where this debate is posted. There is a full transcript of the debate, rebuttals, and question and answer segments. Click here: Is the Doctrine of Common Grace Reformed?

You will need Real Player to hear the audio. You can google Real Player and download it at the appropriate website. Make sure you download the free version of Real Player.

Charlie

3 comments:

Charlie J. Ray said...

"One important question is how the "true light, that enlightens everyone" operates. Is it a steady illumination? If we conceive of all human nature as always and everywhere graced, as many contemporary Catholic theologians do, what would be the result? On the one hand, we would be genuinely open to truth, insight, and goodness wherever we find them. We would also recognize that God is behind that truth and goodness. Unfortunately, considering divine illumination this way often blurs the distinction between the saved and the unsaved. Some theologians begin to treat the good impulses of those who do not know Jesus as if they have the potential to save. Noble Buddhists and Hindus, whether they want it or not, get labeled "anonymous Christians." The constant illumination model does not require us to end up with hope-so universalism, but it has often led Christians there."

From a review of Richard Mouw's book, He Shines in All That's Fair.

Why God Enjoys Baseball."

Charlie J. Ray said...

The Wider Mercy view???

Charlie J. Ray said...

I disagree with R. Scott Clark on the doctrine of common grace. Essentially the doctrine leads to liberalism:

For God So Loved the World

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