The following discussion took place in FaceBook as well. The person is question identifies himself by the moniker, A Wretch Saved. In this instance I am defending the doctrines of grace against someone who wishes to mix semi-Arminian doctrines with the doctrines of grace:
Actually labels serve as a useful way of identifying the doctrines of a person. I am not a hyper-Calvinist since I do not reject evangelism, missions, or preaching the Gospel to the lost as a necessary means or instrument for the conversion of the elect. In fact, I would go so far as to say that none of the elect will be converted through any other means than the preaching of the Gospel and believing that Gospel. (Romans 10:13-14).
Basically modern day neo-Kuyperians have introduced contradictory doctrines that have never been a part of classical Calvinism. The doctrine of "common grace" is not a Calvinist doctrine but an Arminian doctrine. The idea that God wants to save the reprobate but does not want to save the reprobate would be irrational. The Arminians believe God favors the reprobate and wants to save the reprobate but is unable to do so. How many steps away from that doctrine are you?
If Jesus died on the cross for the reprobate in any sense whatever, then what you are believing is a form of Amyraldianism or Arminianism, not classical Reformed theology or biblical theology. Christ died only for the elect and grace is always particular and irresistible, not general and ineffectual. [Addendum: is the atonement defectible? If so, it is powerless to save anyone in particular!]
Basically, most neo-Calvinists think that justification by faith alone is a non-essential doctrine better called an adiaphora. For them the Protestant Reformation is over, Arminians, Roman Catholics, and the Eastern Orthodox are all truly converted Christians despite the fact that they deny the five solas of the Reformation and the very Gospel itself.
No, hyper-Calvinists would actually agree with your liberalism since hyper-Calvinists do not believe the elect actually need to be converted through believing the truth or the true Gospel.
Sincerely yours,
Charlie
Actually labels serve as a useful way of identifying the doctrines of a person. I am not a hyper-Calvinist since I do not reject evangelism, missions, or preaching the Gospel to the lost as a necessary means or instrument for the conversion of the elect. In fact, I would go so far as to say that none of the elect will be converted through any other means than the preaching of the Gospel and believing that Gospel. (Romans 10:13-14).
Basically modern day neo-Kuyperians have introduced contradictory doctrines that have never been a part of classical Calvinism. The doctrine of "common grace" is not a Calvinist doctrine but an Arminian doctrine. The idea that God wants to save the reprobate but does not want to save the reprobate would be irrational. The Arminians believe God favors the reprobate and wants to save the reprobate but is unable to do so. How many steps away from that doctrine are you?
If Jesus died on the cross for the reprobate in any sense whatever, then what you are believing is a form of Amyraldianism or Arminianism, not classical Reformed theology or biblical theology. Christ died only for the elect and grace is always particular and irresistible, not general and ineffectual. [Addendum: is the atonement defectible? If so, it is powerless to save anyone in particular!]
Basically, most neo-Calvinists think that justification by faith alone is a non-essential doctrine better called an adiaphora. For them the Protestant Reformation is over, Arminians, Roman Catholics, and the Eastern Orthodox are all truly converted Christians despite the fact that they deny the five solas of the Reformation and the very Gospel itself.
No, hyper-Calvinists would actually agree with your liberalism since hyper-Calvinists do not believe the elect actually need to be converted through believing the truth or the true Gospel.
Sincerely yours,
Charlie
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